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Nebojsa Milanovic: Papagajska priča kako su Japanci "odavno imali turbo-motore" i slično meni je potpuno besmislena, jer poenta uopšte nije u tome.
Poenta je u nečemu drugom i rečena već više puta, ali posto se stalno zaobilazi evo ponoviću je:
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Nebojsa Milanovic:
Jer, prototip je lako napraviti, ali posedovati tehnologiju i podršku da bi turbo motore mogao da isporučuješ u milionskim tiražima i daješ garanciju za njih - to je nešto sasvim drugo...
Dakle, uopšte nije problem napraviti turbo-motor, sasvim sam siguran da može da ga sklopi i Zastava iz Kragujevca, ali da bi se neki brend osmelio da masovno isporučuje i na svim delovima sveta više godina garantuje za tako nešto - za to je potrebno mnoooogo više više od pukog projektovanja i sklapanja prototipova.
Osim toga, ja uopšte ne sumnjam da Honda može da napravi vrhunski trkački turbo-motor, ali i to je daleeeko jednostavnije, jeftinije i sa manje rizika nego ovo što sam rekao, i te dve stvari se nikako ne mogu zameniti.
Tako da, nemojmo više zamenjivati teze i mešati pojmove.
Ne. Poenta je u tome da ti, samo ti i jedino ti, na celom svetu, od svih mogucih sajtova, foruma...koji se bave automobilizmom, tvrdis da japanci nemaju tehnologiju i podrsku za motore koje ce da prave i da njihova garancija nece vredeti skoro pa nista.
A to sto tvrdis je u najmanju ruku besmisleno.
Kao sto se zna, Honda ce izaci i sa 1.0L i 1.5L turbo motorima. Zasto nisu ranije izasli? Njihova poslovna politika. Da li je ispravna ili ne, pokazace vreme. Ali, sa obzirom na to da su turbo motori u vecini u upotrebi samo u zap. Evropi i nesto malo ih ima u Kini, a da se u ostatku sveta voze vecinom atmosferci, nece biti da su promasili tajming, jer i ovaj type R je (koliko sam upoznat) predvidjen za evropsko i jap. trziste.
Osim sto saradnja VWa sa kineskim proizvodjacem donosi uspon VWa na kineskom trzistu, kineski partner je uhvacen u kradji patenata i dizajna.
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A few months ago, Volkswagen extended its joint venture contract with Chinese partner FAW for another 25 years, with appropriate pomp and circumstance: Chinese Prime Minister Wen Jiabao and German Chancellor Angela Merkel witnessed the signature. Now, Volkswagen takes the unusual step of going semi-public with the theft of intellectual property. According to reports in German media, FAW has “systematically and repeatedly” stolen designs of important components such as engines and transmissions. Volkswagen’s hands are tied.
Volkswagen managers caught partner FAW stealing designs for the Volkswagen transmission MQ 200, writes Germany’s Handelsblatt in a long article which names several (albeit anonymous) Volkswagen managers as sources. “It’s a catastrophe,” a VW exec told the paper.
According to the report, this is not the first case or purloined patents. Two years ago, Volkswagen blueprints were used to copy the EA 111 engine. Volkswagen’s Winterkorn complained to FAW boss Xu Jianyi. Xu apologized, said it was an oversight by an overeager engineer who had been “severely criticized.”
“In the meantime, FAW built a factory in Changchun for the copied engine,” says the report.
Volkswagen had shared construction details with its joint venture FAW-Volkswagen, which builds the engine under license. It did not share the plans with FAW. “The plans should not have gotten to the outside,” a Volkswagen manager told the paper. ”This is no way to cooperate, trust is being violated.”
It is doubtful that Volkswagen will openly fight against the copy. Bigger things are at stake. China already is Volkswagen’s most important market. For 2018, Volkswagen has budgeted four million units for China. Even if Volkswagen would want to take action against the copy, their “hands are tied” until 2013, said a VW executive. That’s when the purloined powertrain will hit the market.
Well, maybe it was a Chinese revenge anyway. The official PR picture with Winterkorn shaking Xu’s hand after the signing of the contract has “Volkswagen/ SAIC” as the backdrop. VW’s other Chinese joint venture partner SAIC is regarded as a bitter rival by FAW, and the improper backdrop is a major loss of the all-important face.
Tip of the hat to the man in the mountains. Demand denied
http://www.thetruthaboutcars.c...ina-steals-volkswagen-patents/
I kao sto pise u tekstu, pojeo vuk magarca. Nikom nista.
Doduse, i japanci su, kada su pocinjali, krali kao danas kinezi. Mozda i Kina uskoro postane velesila u proizvodnji automobila.
Evropsko, odnosno EU trziste je pod komandom nemacke auto industrije. Videli smo kako se donose kojekakvi propisi o zagadjenjima i kako se ti isti propisi pod pritiskom Nemacke vlade menjaju, odnosno krse, kada njihovi proizvodjaci ne uspeju da ispostuju te norme koje uvodi EU birokratija.
Pa VW, iako je napravio novu fabriku u USA, ulozio silni novac, vrsio agresivnu relamnu kampanju, prodaje u USA izmedju 7.000. i 10.000. Pasata mesecno. Relativno lose i nije cudo sto su gazde VWa nezadovoljne. Tamosnji kupci se nesto ne otimaju za te TSI motore.
Mnogo godina ce proci da bi turbo benzinci imali veci udeo na globalnom trzistu od atmosferaca.